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deepseek-v4.1-flash-max vs kimi-k2.5-thinking
deepseek-v4.1-flash-max is ahead on Arena (1463 vs 1445): in a blind vote people prefer it about 53% of the time.
deepseek-v4.1-flash-max1463Arena chat · #38 of 416
kimi-k2.5-thinking1445Arena chat · #62 of 416
Arena scores by category
| Category | deepseek-v4.1-flash-max | kimi-k2.5-thinking | Ahead |
|---|---|---|---|
| Chat | 1463 | 1445 | deepseek-v4.1-flash-max |
| Vision | 1277 | 1269 | about even |
Scores from blind human votes on Arena. A gap under 10 points is too small to call.
Size and where to use them free
| deepseek-v4.1-flash-max | kimi-k2.5-thinking | |
|---|---|---|
| Made by | deepseek | moonshot |
| Size | 763.2 B (228.1 B active) | not public |
| 4-bit download | 464 GB | — |
| Use it free | download and run at home · MIT license | Modified MIT license |
Speed at home
| Hardware | deepseek-v4.1-flash-max | kimi-k2.5-thinking |
|---|---|---|
| RTX 3090 | does not fit | online only |
| RTX 4090 | does not fit | online only |
| RTX 5090 | does not fit | online only |
| RX 7900 XTX | does not fit | online only |
| Mac M4 Max 128 GB | does not fit | online only |
| Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128 GB | does not fit | online only |
Estimates at 4-bit with an 8K context, 64 GB of system RAM for offload, calibrated on 44 real llama.cpp tests.
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