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deepseek-v4.1-flash-max vs Kimi K3 (Max)

Kimi K3 (Max) is ahead on Arena (1475 vs 1463): in a blind vote people prefer it about 52% of the time.

deepseek-v4.1-flash-max1463Arena chat · #38 of 416
Kimi K3 (Max)1475Arena chat · #25 of 416

Arena scores by category

Categorydeepseek-v4.1-flash-maxKimi K3 (Max)Ahead
Chat14631475Kimi K3 (Max)

Scores from blind human votes on Arena. A gap under 10 points is too small to call.

Size and where to use them free

deepseek-v4.1-flash-maxKimi K3 (Max)
Made bydeepseekmoonshot
Size763.2 B (228.1 B active)2779.9 B (105.8 B active)
4-bit download464 GB1686 GB
Use it freedownload and run at home · MIT licensedownload and run at home · Kimi K3 license license

Speed at home

Hardwaredeepseek-v4.1-flash-maxKimi K3 (Max)
RTX 3090does not fitdoes not fit
RTX 4090does not fitdoes not fit
RTX 5090does not fitdoes not fit
RX 7900 XTXdoes not fitdoes not fit
Mac M4 Max 128 GBdoes not fitdoes not fit
Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128 GBdoes not fitdoes not fit

Estimates at 4-bit with an 8K context, 64 GB of system RAM for offload, calibrated on 44 real llama.cpp tests.

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