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Kimi K3 (Max) vs Qwen3.8-Max
Kimi K3 (Max) and Qwen3.8-Max are about even on Arena (1475 vs 1484): in a blind vote each wins about half the time.
Kimi K3 (Max)1475Arena chat · #25 of 418
Qwen3.8-Max1484Arena chat · #15 of 418
Arena scores by category
| Category | Kimi K3 (Max) | Qwen3.8-Max | Ahead |
|---|---|---|---|
| Chat | 1475 | 1484 | about even |
| Coding | 1655 | 1673 | Qwen3.8-Max |
Scores from blind human votes on Arena. A gap under 10 points is too small to call.
Size and where to use them free
| Kimi K3 (Max) | Qwen3.8-Max | |
|---|---|---|
| Made by | moonshot | alibaba |
| Size | 2779.9 B (104.6 B active) | not public |
| 4-bit download | 1686 GB | — |
| Use it free | download and run at home · Kimi K3 license | Proprietary license |
Speed at home
| Hardware | Kimi K3 (Max) | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| RTX 3090 | does not fit | online only |
| RTX 4090 | does not fit | online only |
| RTX 5090 | does not fit | online only |
| RX 7900 XTX | does not fit | online only |
| Mac M4 Max 128 GB | does not fit | online only |
| Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128 GB | does not fit | online only |
Estimates at 4-bit with an 8K context, 64 GB of system RAM for offload, calibrated on 44 real llama.cpp tests.
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