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DeepSeek-V4-Pro vs Kimi K2.5 (Thinking)

DeepSeek-V4-Pro and Kimi K2.5 (Thinking) are about even on Arena (1451 vs 1445): in a blind vote each wins about half the time.

DeepSeek-V4-Pro1451Arena chat · #49 of 417
Kimi K2.5 (Thinking)1445Arena chat · #61 of 417

Arena scores by category

CategoryDeepSeek-V4-ProKimi K2.5 (Thinking)Ahead
Chat14511445about even
Coding15821437DeepSeek-V4-Pro

Scores from blind human votes on Arena. A gap under 10 points is too small to call.

Size and where to use them free

DeepSeek-V4-ProKimi K2.5 (Thinking)
Made bydeepseekmoonshot
Size1598.8 B (75.6 B active)1026.9 B (33.3 B active)
4-bit download970 GB624 GB
Use it freedownload and run at home · MIT licensedownload and run at home · Modified MIT license

Speed at home

HardwareDeepSeek-V4-ProKimi K2.5 (Thinking)
RTX 3090does not fitdoes not fit
RTX 4090does not fitdoes not fit
RTX 5090does not fitdoes not fit
RX 7900 XTXdoes not fitdoes not fit
Mac M4 Max 128 GBdoes not fitdoes not fit
Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128 GBdoes not fitdoes not fit

Estimates at 4-bit with an 8K context, 64 GB of system RAM for offload, calibrated on 44 real llama.cpp tests.

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