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GLM-5 vs Qwen3.8-Max

Qwen3.8-Max is ahead on Arena (1483 vs 1457): in a blind vote people prefer it about 54% of the time.

GLM-51457Arena chat · #65 of 418
Qwen3.8-Max1483Arena chat · #23 of 418

Arena scores by category

CategoryGLM-5Qwen3.8-MaxAhead
Chat14571483Qwen3.8-Max
Coding14351673Qwen3.8-Max

Scores from blind human votes on Arena. A gap under 10 points is too small to call.

Size and where to use them free

GLM-5Qwen3.8-Max
Made byzaialibaba
Size753.9 B (50.8 B active)not public
4-bit download458 GB—
Use it freedownload and run at home · MIT licenseProprietary license

Speed at home

HardwareGLM-5Qwen3.8-Max
RTX 3090does not fitonline only
RTX 4090does not fitonline only
RTX 5090does not fitonline only
RX 7900 XTXdoes not fitonline only
Mac M4 Max 128 GBdoes not fitonline only
Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128 GBdoes not fitonline only

Estimates at 4-bit with an 8K context, 64 GB of system RAM for offload, calibrated on 44 real llama.cpp tests.

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