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Gemini 3 Flash vs Qwen3.8-Max

Qwen3.8-Max is ahead on Arena (1484 vs 1466): in a blind vote people prefer it about 53% of the time.

Gemini 3 Flash1466Arena chat · #36 of 418
Qwen3.8-Max1484Arena chat · #15 of 418

Arena scores by category

CategoryGemini 3 FlashQwen3.8-MaxAhead
Chat14661484Qwen3.8-Max
Coding14401673Qwen3.8-Max
Vision12851313Qwen3.8-Max

Scores from blind human votes on Arena. A gap under 10 points is too small to call.

Size and where to use them free

Gemini 3 FlashQwen3.8-Max
Made bygooglealibaba
Sizenot publicnot public
4-bit download——
Use it freeProprietary licenseProprietary license

Speed at home

HardwareGemini 3 FlashQwen3.8-Max
RTX 3090online onlyonline only
RTX 4090online onlyonline only
RTX 5090online onlyonline only
RX 7900 XTXonline onlyonline only
Mac M4 Max 128 GBonline onlyonline only
Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128 GBonline onlyonline only

Estimates at 4-bit with an 8K context, 64 GB of system RAM for offload, calibrated on 44 real llama.cpp tests.

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